michele gave a good speech, i think. bottom line politically bill clinton not to out of the park. >> added to president obama, but that he's attracted because she reminded the democrats a wonderful life used to be. more prosperous, but also a more normal, more same -- mainstream centers democratic party. no connection that he has ever. he is focusing on abortion, contraception, and the marriage. that is not high in anybody's polls. so, you are not here. obviously everybody is talking about this dismal jobs report. what is the political take away? >> i think it's going to be basically a a jump ball. unemployment is down. 367,000 people left the work force. >> it's not good. >> it's not good. bottom line, 70 percent think the economy is in bad shape, 65 percent said the country is off on the wrong track. that's not going to change before the election. the election is died. i fully expect it will stay tied into the debates. >> what do you think will be the breaking point? >> it's going to be the debates. for the first time